Cyber-Assignment for They Say Chapter 6 Planting the Naysayer Due: October 2-3, 2013
Post your response to So What? Who Cares? Exercises 1 and 2 (100-101) here. For Exercise 2 use a piece of your writing to respond to this assignment. It doesn't have to be Mrs. Rosa Parks, but it can be.
Each student is to respond to minimally two student's work on the blog.
Does the student writing create empathy in the audience? Talk about what works? If you do not feel sympathy offer an alternate template with explanation.
This was assigned October 1, 2013. We went over it, October 2, 2013, in the 10-10:50 and 11-11:50 classes.
Each student is to respond to minimally two student's work on the blog.
Does the student writing create empathy in the audience? Talk about what works? If you do not feel sympathy offer an alternate template with explanation.
This was assigned October 1, 2013. We went over it, October 2, 2013, in the 10-10:50 and 11-11:50 classes.
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21 Comments:
Huy Vo
Professor Sabir,
English 1a, 11-11:50
Chapter 6
It has come to my attention the outcries of far greater importance on the political agenda than the war on drugs. There are children in hunger in Africa and poverty-stricken families. Most families who live in cities rotten with crimes, they would suggest that tending to the poor and the war on crime is more important, they have not understand the interconnected nature of society. Drug usage are related with poverty and crime rates. If were to develop policies on the war on drug, there would also be a decline in other problems this country is facing. Furor example, prohibition has put an unprecedented fraction of the US population behind bars. America now incarcerates some 2.25 million people, more than one-in-five of the world’s prisoners. The number of US inmates serving time for drug charges now exceeds the entire US prison population in 1970. Preventing drug usage would late the already overpopulated prisons.
Hi John:
Read out loud and revise. It looks like you rewrote the paragraph. All you had to do is insert a naysayer into the essay.
Patrick Yu
Professor Sabir
English 1A 11-11:50
3 October 2013
They Say I Say p.90
Some readers may challenge my views by insisting that the decriminalization and legalization of drugs would make children start using them. However, if the possession of drugs were legal, it would only have a positive effect; Current drug users would not have to worry about arrest, and our states would stop wasting money on keeping these people in jails. Schools would continue to educate their students about the dangers of drugs. While it is true that the decriminalized of drugs would attract some people into experimenting with them, it does not necessarily follow that everyone would want to. Smoking tobacco is legal, but there are more nonsmokers than there are smokers. That is because in this day in age, people are aware of the harmful effects of drugs.
Susan Gyemant
Professor Sabir
English 1A (11-11:50)
They Say Ch 6
1 October 2013
Naysayer
This war has filled the nation’s prisons with poor drug addicts and small-time drug dealers. It has created a multibillion-dollar black market, enriched organized crime groups and promoted the corruption of government officials throughout the world. The argument can be made that legalizing drug use could not possibly remedy this epidemic. In fact this would give them free reign in a business they are already too familiar with. Still, I would respond that a drug enforcement over haul would mean that decriminalization is piggybacked by substance control policy.
The United States should immediately decriminalize the cultivation and possession of small amounts of marijuana for personal use. Certainly, some readers might challenge my views by insisting that decriminalizing would increase/promote/encourage other “illegal” activities…
We must shift our entire approach to drug abuse from the criminal justice system to the public health system. Skeptics might argue the current state of public health, note present federal government shutdown (Obama Care Act), does not make this policy suggestion feasible. However, making that shift from criminalization to prevention and education is not impossible when there is public will. Congress should appoint an independent commission to study the harm-reduction policies that have been adopted in Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, and the Netherlands…
Kimberly Young
Professor Sabir
English 1A, 8:00-8:50am
3 October 2013
Naysayer
Some people in the United States want to legalize the selling and purchasing of drugs. In contrast, both the government and many individuals want to put a ban on criminalizing and legalizing drugs. However, my views towards approving drugs are that they should be decriminalized and legalized for the benefit of the government and everyone. Drug addicts have created a multibillion-dollar black market, which could potentially become under the regulation of the government if drugs are permitted. The government could use that extra money to build more roads, provide more support to the education department, help the poor and etc. Additionally, legalizing drugs would also reduce the amount of people going to jail, which intentionally reduces the amount of government spending. Legalizing drugs will not only reduce the amount of government spending but also reduce the amount of crimes in the society.
Many skeptics might argue that decriminalization of drug would help to promote many individuals selling and trying it. This is not always the case because many of the people in today’s society are nonsmoker. This displays that even though a minority of people will turn into drug addicts, most will remain same.
Kimberly Young
Professor Sabir
English 1A, 8:00-8:50am
3 October 2013
Response to Naysayer
I agree with Patrick Yu's reason of using the nonsmoker as a counter argument.
I also agree with Susan Gyemant that even though the public health might be affected, the public will will help keep it strong.
Ariana Yu
Professor Sabir
English 1A, 8:00-8:50AM
3 October 2013
Response to Naysayer
On the other hand, there are many people who want to illegalize drugs, claiming that they are nothing but trouble. However, they opposers of drugs are often blind to the positives that drugs have to offer. For example, drugs are many peoples’ solutions to depression, and many other psychological issues they might be going through. Also, economics at New York University estimate that legalizing drugs would save the government around 41.3 billion dollars every year. The legalization of drugs will massively reduce crime in the market place and crime in general. The reason for this is that the police will be able to spend less time on drug crimes, and more on other harmful crimes that hurt real victims. There will also be less people who are arrested every year who are not even harming others. For example, 88% of the people arrested for marijuana in the past decade were just for possession alone. The less people there are in jail, the less the government will have to spend there. The extra funds could go into educating the citizens, and many other more useful things.
Ariana Yu
Professor Sabir
English 1A, 8:00-8:50AM
3 October 2013
Response to Other's Naysayer
I agree with Kimberly Young legalizing drugs will reduce the amount of people in jail and that the government could use the extra money to fund other things, such as roads.
I also consent with Patrick Yu that schools would continue to educate students on the dangers of drugs, even if it was legalized.
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Saleena Carpenter
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10-10:50am
3 October 2013
They Say I Say: Ch. 6 Naysayer
1) While it is true that some people will disagree with my opinion because some drugs affect individuals negatively creating an unhealthy society, encouraging our youth to use drugs. It does not rule out the fact that some drugs are not harmful and small time drug dealers are being unjustly incarcerated while the real criminals like rapist and murderers roam free.
I agree with Patrick Yu even though legalizing drugs would cause people to experiment, it does not necessarily mean everyone would want to. Everyone is a individual capable of making life decisions for themselves. I also like how Ariana Yu connected drug use to being a positive outlet for depression and psychological issues, interesting.
2) Theoharis recounts a story told by Mrs. Parks where she threatened a young white man for teasing and provoking her and her younger brother (7). She was known for being straight forward and would not accept being mistreated. Rosa Parks' grandmother made it clear that she disagreed with her unavoidable quick reaction to defy white authority.
I believe my objection is represented fairly because it is followed by a quote showing evidence of her grandmother's disapproval. Introducing a naysayer definitely makes my argument stronger because my argument is that bravery comes naturally when you're a rebel.
Denise Burgara
Professor Sabir
English 1A, 11-11:50
3 October 2013
They say Ch.6
Plug In-s To the Original Work
1) Yet some readers may challenge my view by insisting that making drugs illegal can provoke or lead to other ilegal activities.
2)Although not all people think alike, some will probably dispute my claim that this will make society unhealthy and can get out of control, but we can make policies and see what can work.
Response to Susan Gyemant:
The templates Susan added to the original work of Eric Shlosser helped very well to plant the naysayer and helped me further to understand both sides of the argument.
Response to Saleena Carpenter :
The template Saleena used was great and I liked the argument she made back about having "small time drug dealers" incarcerated unjustly, while there are real criminals like rapist and murderers out there, good argument.
Isabel Grande
Professor Sabir
English 1A, 8 - 8:50 AM
They Say I Say: Ch. 6 Naysayer
In considering the legalization of recreational drugs, civilians and government officials alike may contest it under the grounds that this act could make already powerful drug industry even more powerful, and so diminish government power to continue policing .Currently organized crime is able to grow the illegal recreational drug industry into the billions, despite it is clandestine and with restricted access to the general public. Through legalization though, they will now have unlimited access to the open market which will increase revenues There will be no regulating force strong enough to cease them in case they become a too powerful and anarchist entity. However, if we consider that what truly sustain this industry is the addicts and the flow of ignorant prospects along with total monopolization of the industry. Through the legal production from more diverse sources, current mega producers will experience a blow to their financial strength as they control and resources decentralize. We could impose high taxation, and with those funds increase anti drug education in general, social services for the poor and comprehensive health services for the addicts. Keeping it on the open and realistic side will allow us to face the dilemma and solve it together, as a society.
Isabel Grande
Professor Sabir
English 1A, 8 - 8:50 AM
4 October 2013
They Say I say Chap. 6
Naysayer
In considering the legalization of recreational drugs, civilians and government officials alike, may contest it under the grounds that this act could make an already powerful drug industry even more powerful; thus diminishing the government ability to continue policing .Currently, organized crime is able to grow the illegal recreational drug industry into the billions, despite it is clandestine and with restricted access to the general public. Through legalization though, they will now have unlimited access to the open market which will increase their revenues substantially. There will be no regulating force, strong enough to cease them, in the case they become a too powerful, and anarchist entity. However, if we consider that what truly sustain this industry is the addicts, and the flow of ignorant prospects, along with the monopolization of the industry by a few organizations in control. We then, through the legal production from diverse sources, should procured a blow to the financial strength of the current mega producers as their control and resources decentralize. We could impose high taxation, and with those funds increase anti drug education in general, social services for the poor and comprehensive health services for the addicts. Keeping it on the open and realistic side will allow us to face the dilemma and solve it together, as a society.
Isabel Grande
Professor Sabir
English 1A, 8 - 8:50 AM
4 October 2013
Response to other naysayer
1. I support Kimberly Young with her perspective for improving social services for the poor with the very same funds generated by the regulation of the recreational drug production. unregulated, for it currently is a And if allocate some of those funds in drug prevention programs as well as health services for the addict. We could actually gain control over it .
2. Huy Vo, although sides tracks from the subject a little, does rises a strong point pro- legalization by supplying us those exorbitant figures for the incarcerated in the United states. In learning these facts, I can help, but object our current judicial system against the illegal drug industry, it seems unjust and incompetent.
Isabel Grande
Professor Sabir
English 1A 8 - 8:50 AM
4 October 2013
Response to other naysayer
1. I support Kimberly Young in her perspective for improving social services for the poor with the very same funds generated from the regulation of the recreational drug production. And to also fund drug prevention programs as well as health services for the addict. Preventing and curing the addict could give society a lead in the war against drugs by diminishing its demand.
2. Huy Vo, although sides tracks from the subject a little, does rises a strong point pro- legalization by supplying us those exorbitant figures for the incarcerated in the United states. In learning these facts, I can help, but object our current judicial system against the illegal drug industry, it seems unjust and incompetent.
Tiffany Gregory
Professor Sabir
English 1A (10-10:50)
They Say Ch. 6
5 October 2013
Response to Other's Naysayer
I agree with Ariana Yu completely, yes drugs can be seen as bad thing but there are certain drugs that are actually made to heal, unfortunately drugs are being abused by people who don’t need them and it affects the people who do because they can’t be legalized. I have friends with family members who depend on certain drugs to maintain stability and even consciousness in some ways. We need to focus more in the country on other crimes as hard as we do drugs because in the end drugs are herbs from the ground and can always be made as long as there is land and soil.
Briana Del Cid
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10-10:50
3 October 2013
Skeptics May Object
1. Drug specialist agree that if a person doesn’t use marijuana in a balanced way, each of its positive effects may begin to get twisted and turn into its opposite. However the marijuana syndromes can help people understand when this process is happening and give them the tools to correct it if it does happen. We want the goal treatment to be to harvest the positive qualities of marijuana effects while they last. A person can do this to a large degree by staying as balanced as possible in the process. We can help them to achieve this goal.
2. Yet some readers may challenge my view that insisting that they have never heard of Parks activist work which entitle her as a rebel. While it is true that there aren’t many scholarly book about her political work, it does not necessarily mean it never happen. In fact, after Parks was arrested it was decided that she would have to make her activist work unknown so that E.D. Nixon and other activist could use her to spark the Civil Rights Movement. Parks was courageous and darling even when she was attacked by critics, she would not back down. It is astounding the way rebels choose to go against popular opinion therefore facing negative consequences that are inflicted by others that disagree with them. Rebels need to have a hard outer shell to withstand the critics and attacks that the oppressors dealt to them. Parks, unlike many others in Montgomery, never backed down from an oppressor even when she knew the consequences. She was often scared but that never torn her down, not the death threats or the bombers. Parks was like a mountain, nothing could move her because she refused to move and no wind or ocean could scare her away. Fearlessness is part of a rebel’s job description.
Hugo Saavedra
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 1A 11-11:50
7 October 2013
They Say Exercises "Who cares?" "So what?"
The text I chose to do for the first exercise is a section from Judit Butler's book "Gender Trouble". The section does answer the "so what" and who cares", albeit indirectly: both are abstracted, and deriving the specific "who" and "what" takes an additional step - she refers to questions and ideas as being crucial to feminist politic and feminist theory, thereby rendering the "who" to be those intellectually occupied with feminist politics and feminist theory. That she does identify a "so what" and a "who cares" is important in making her prose accessible. However, that her "so what" and "who cares" are abstract and indirect, the accessibility is diminished: clearly it is not every-day people she is addressing, but those intellectually occupied by the feminism, which renders the implications themselves abstract and intellectual. Although by and large I agree with Judith Butler and admire her work, it does not represent a style I would like to emulate because I think it is inaccessible to most people.
2. The following is taken from a blog post I made a year ago in which I argued that the proposed international auxiliary language Esperanto would promote language loss and cultural erasure and accelerate globalization if internationally adopted. I adapted the template proposed in exercise 2 to this writing.
"If you agree that Esperanto is Eurocentric, then why would you continue to promote its use as an international auxiliary language? Do you not see how it would be alienating to someone who isn’t European, particularly to someone whose people have been subjected to colonization and continual reinforcement over the centuries that their ways of doing things, their spiritual traditions, their understandings of the world, their philosophical traditions, and of course their languages are inferior to European ways of doing things, European spiritual traditions, European understandings of the world, European philosophical traditions and European languages? Do you not see how it would be alienating for a people to be made to learn a language unrelated to their own which bears striking resemblances to the languages of people who brutalized and massacred their ancestors (and banned their languages), who continue to brutalize them by way of multinational corporations, parasitic trade agreements, debt and finally military force (either overt or by proxy) if things get out of hand?
If you insist that an international auxiliary language is even necessary, then be the one to scrap Esperanto and create something truly neutral, made from an a priori vocabulary with a more analytic (isolating) grammar which avoids traits commonly associated with imperialist or colonialist languages. It will be harder for you and for Europeans to learn, but at least you’ll be able to sell the neutrality point with a straight face and you won’t be upholding European cultural hegemony. My points here should interest those who wish to promote Esperanto as an international language but who also care about linguistic and cultural diversity and oppose empire. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of language politics and language diversity."
Kaleb L. Beyene
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 1A, 11-11:50
chapter 6
Strengthen argument by naysayer
On that historic day of December 1, 1955 Mrs. Rosa Parks was heading to her home from her work. On her way, she refused to give up her sit for a white passenger who entered to the bus after her. Even if she sat in the mid section of the bus, the bus driver insisted her to give her seat. And he also told her that he would lay criminal charges upon her in contrary to the state law of the time which respect her right to preserve her mid section seat since all the back section sits which prepared for black passengers were full. And in order not to approve the way her likens have been treated, she kept her refusal until police officers arrested her and took her out from the bus. But proponents of Mrs. Rosa Parks argue that she refuse to give up her seat not because she wanted to challenge the segregation, but she is so tired to the limit that she couldn’t able to stand. But on the other hand I still insisted that, since that working day was as any other working day for her, it is so silly to guess by saying she would be tired at that extent.
Rebeca Gonzalez
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10-10:50
They say Ch.6 ex.1 and 2
1. Even though many people believe that legalizing drugs is an absurd idea and they think that it will only bring more problems, they don’t think of the fact that it would save our country a lot of money. Instead of having our government wasting there time and money on drug trafficking and drug dealers they could use that time and money coming up with more programs and ideas on how to make the education system and schools better for our children.
2. Whenever people hear the word rebel they think of a person who is going against what is said to be good or the authority. There are different types of definitions to the word rebel. There’s some people that become rebellious to gain good for themselves but cause harm to others and then there are others that rebel against what is said to be good in order to obtain what they believe in and not only gain something better out of it for themselves but also for others. Rosa Parks is a great example of being a rebel because she stood up for what she believed in and not only did she try to gain rights for herself but also for others.
I think in this paragraph of my Rosa Parks essay I attributed both the objections to how some certain types of rebels are and the way Rosa Parks was. I could have specified it a little more to how others may view Mrs.Parks but I did try to incorporate what her goals were as a righteous rebel.
Deana Watson
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10:00am-10:50am
13th October, 2013
They say I say Chpt 6 ex. 1 & 2
Naysayer:
The drug war on the nation's has affected prisons with drug addicts and drug dealers. Putting a ban on legalizing drugs from both the government and indivuials that currently don't use drugs. Others that don't look at the positives that drugs offer look at it as if drugs are the worst things on this planet. Some don't know that drugs are the solutions to others problems. In addition to legalizing drugs it would make the drug industry a very powerful organization to the government. Making unlimited access to the selling market of drugs, with no regulating enforcement incase the industry becomes too over powering. Giving an example that the only customers would be addicts and the income of helpless people, along with jealousy of other industries. Instead by having the government waste the time and money of legalizing drugs and the manufacturing of industries the money could be spent on something more educational, and helpful to the community.
A rebel, someone who stands against certain authority or a person who refuses allegiance. The definition of a rebel really describes the strong-headed woman name Rosa Parks. She is a great example of being a rebel because of the way her bravery of standing up for what she believed in and not only standing up for her self she also stood up for others.
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