Tuesday, May 08, 2012

Today we are using one of the Ode articles to respond to chapter 12, Reading for the Conversation (Graff and Birkenstein 145). Post your short essay response here. Respond to one student response by extending the conversation.

Homework

Bring in all your social entrepreneur data and research and writing.

7 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hoan Vu
Professor Sabir
English 1A
8 May 2012
They Say I Say Chapter 12
1.The author’s argument :That micro credit Is an innovative idea. Like all new ideas it take time for people to realize its potentials, and it have under goes three steps: other people think its ridiculous , it is oppose, and they embrace it.
2.What is motivate the author’s argument? The author wants to prove that all innovative ideas come from unexpected innovators. it goes against common sense, but people embrace it because it prove its worthiness.
3.Ideas that I encounter is about solar power. At the present time it is not practical because of the cost. But I think as the technology evolves. In the future it might make a big impact in contributing to the energy source.

9:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daniel Escudero-Whitney
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 1A
9 May 2012

Turning Poverty into Peace
An Analytical Response

Chapter 12 of They Say / I Say asks us to examine the arguments in an article, for example. In Kamp and Visscher’s ¬_Turning Poverty into Peace_, an article from the December 2006 issue of Ode Magazine, and their arguments are as follows: in order for an idea to be successful, one must break the mold, so to speak. Also, you must prove yourself to your audience. You must be able to operate despite resistance from the world in order to achieve a goal. For someone to get things done, they must learn to accept criticism and use that criticism to propel them even further in the right direction for their work.
These are the keys to success in the world of new ideas.

9:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John Sills
Prof. Sabir

The author is responding to the blow back received by new ideas. He used Muhammad Yunus, the first micro-creditor, as an example to show the different stages of acceptance. The authors state "First, it is rediculed; second, it is violently opposed; and third it is accepted and embraced as self-evident." The author does a good job of showing the different stages by giving us examples from notable journalists in their field. The authors give an alternative perspective when they quote The Wall Street Journal saying "Microcredit is a great idea with a problem: the bank that made it famous." The authors go on to say that although the TWSJ was damaging and hurtful, it is simply a stage in the accpetance of a new idea. Mi9cro-finance is the implementation of democracy within the banking system; allowing people , regardless of financial position, access to what would be available to a select few.

9:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mark Jansz

Spring 2012 English 1A

8 May 2012

They Say Chapter 12-reading for the conversation

1What is the author’s argument?
Every innovative idea goes through three steps. “First, it is ridiculed; second, it is violently opposed; third, it is accepted and embraced as self-evident.”

2.What is motivating the writer’s argument?
What motivates the writer’s argument is that Mahatma Gandhi also said something similar:”First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

3.Are there any ideas that you have encountered in class or elsewhere that might be pertinent?
Yes I have had some ideas that were relevant to the thesis of this article.

4. When the "They Say" is unstated.
Jurriaan Kamp and Marco Visscher do a good job in summarizing the "They Say."

9:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Colleen Low
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 1A
9 May 2012

“They Say I Say” Chapter 12 Short essay to Ode:
The World Champ of Poverty Fighters:

During the interview with Muhammad Yunus, the author states Yunus’s argument about poverty, that poor people are perceived negatively, treated unfairly and the government system efforts facilitate dependence. These are some motives to why the poverty system needs to be retooled which is to recreate a system for opportunity, so people receiving assistance will regain control of their lives and exercise their potential. I agree with Yunus with regard to assistance that it needs to be rethought. Most people do not want handouts, the majority do want jobs and want to specialize in a certain field, however the system needs to address these problems, where people have more control. The interview then directs the attention toward helping others and giving back by starting business with an idea to create a better society rather than profits. There are not many out there as of yet, however Yunus plants the seed of thoughts, and ideas because he has proven, through his Microcredit, a system that give loans to the poor to start projects have been successful.

4:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ana Vasquez
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 1A
May 9, 2012
Turning Poverty into Peace
They Say I Say
(Response to each point)
In the article ”Turning Poverty into Peace”, the famous Muhammad Yunus is interviewed and states that poverty has become a big issue in the U.S and the poor are always seen in a negative way. The government does not help them, which makes the poor remain in poverty. Muhammad wants to help the less fortunate, but he also believes that the people will only take advantage of the money that is being given to them. I can agree with Muhammad’s second thoughts about the idea of micro credit because,most might just use the money for unnecessary things, but at the same time I believe some people do want to better themselves, and with the help of micro credit the people would receive it could be the beginning of better life. The interview that Muhammad Yunus gave, suggested that this problem should be addressed in a place where the people knew there was control. The interview then began to focus in the attention of helping others and being able to start organizations and businesses to be able to make a better society. Given that the poor were seen negatively, they could not afford to make the micro credit work in place that would be out of control. Muhammad Yunus was able to give ideas, and begin the start of something new, that would hopefully make his micro credit project work, and be able to help people get loans and become successful. This way they will no longer be considered "free loaders"
or a failure to our society.

7:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Colleen Low
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 1A
10 May 2012

Response to Hoan:

Microcredit is an innovative idea, perhaps people thought it was ridiculous, due to the fact of societal attitudes, however Yunnus knew loaning poor people money was giving them a chance. It doesn’t take an education to make money, but a desire and that is what Yunus sees in people. Yunus creation of Microfinance was based on belief of helping others, he saw their potential, especially in the current times of selfish individuals to which we have become. The naysayers forgot where they came from, how their past generations began, the majority of the people in the world were not born with a silver spoon in their mouths. I agree with Hoan about solar energy and not the sub par solar equipment we have available because there are passive compliant technology available. Once someone like Yunus takes a stand, people will surely see the potential, good results for the environment and for the future of generations to come. Yunus has demonstrated that he knows what he talking about because of his successes in Microfinancing.

6:19 AM  

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