Thursday, October 03, 2013

Cyber-Assignment Chapter 7 Due: Monday, October 7, 2013

Chapter 7 "So What? Who Cares?" (92)

Complete Exercise 1 on page 100 exactly as written.

For Exercise 2 use something you've written, where you have not included a "so what? and a "who cares?' (101).

Respond to minimally two students' response to Exercise 1.


55 Comments:

Blogger Unknown said...

Denise Burgara
Professor Sabir
English 1A, 11-11:50
3 October 2013
They say Ch.7


1) You won’t believe what scientists found in chicken nuggets By Scott Sunde

Doesn’t that look yummy? Dr. Richard deShazo poses with an enlarged picture of the microscopic chicken nugget section. University of Mississippi Medical Center. You remember “Where’s the beef?” Let us begin a second rallying cry, “Where’s the chicken?” Scientists have performed an “autopsy” on nuggets from two unnamed fast-food chains. The findings aren’t pretty: 40 to 50 percent of the nuggets were meat, and the rest was fat, skin, connective tissue, blood vessels, nerves and bone fragments, according. One of the scientists — Dr. Richard deShazo, a distinguished professor of medicine, pediatrics and immunology — is quoted by the center as saying: “I was floored. I had read what other reports have said is in them and I didn’t believe it. I was astonished actually seeing it under the microscope. “What has happened is that some companies have chosen to use an artificial mixture of chicken parts rather than low-fat chicken white meat, batter it up and fry it, and still call it chicken. It is really a chicken by-product high in calories, salt, sugar and fat that is a very unhealthy choice. Even worse, it tastes great and kids love it and it is marketed to them….The scientists’ message is one you’ve heard before: Eat things like nuggets once in awhile. Load up on fresh fruits, green vegetables and lean protein.


My response:

The above text I found was on the, San Francisco Chronicle. Although the author does include the “what” by saying these Chicken nuggets are not at all healthy and gives us facts on their research and their findings, they do not mention “who”, the purpose is there, they say it is very unhealthy, but they don’t include an audience. It makes such a great difference when an author includes “what”, and “who” because we are not wondering things. It is very clear to us when we can see the purpose behind their writing. Perhaps elaborating more on how kids seemed to be inclined to these unhealthy foods, and having an audience of parents, to inform them on this issue.

6:43 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Denise Burgara
Professor Sabir
English 1A, 11-11:50
3 October 2013
They say Ch.7


2) My point here is that Rosa Parks ultimately resisted through it all and fought for a great cause, this should interest those who feel unhappy with social issues and should work and fight like Parks did so. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of racial and social inequalities, to better the our community or even the world, to get rid of unjust and ignorant ways of thinking.

6:59 PM  
Blogger Angel Vargas said...

Angel Vargas
Professor Sabir
English 1A 8-8:50
6 October, 2013
They Say I Say

In “Selling Secrets of Phone Users to Advertisers” by the New York Times by Claire Cain Miller and Somini Sengupta, the authors begin by explaining that people today really don’t have much of an idea of how much personal information about them is stored on their phones. Smartphones know a lot about you, they know what you search and when you search it, they know know what you do for fun, what you buy and from where, they even know when you go to sleep. The authors go on to state that privacy advocates fear that people don’t really realize how much of their information the phones keep track of. In 2010 and 2011 the NSA collected information and even tracked cellphone’s location, although they claim they never used the information gathered. There are corporations specifically made to monitor what you are doing on your phone, one of which being Drawbridge, founded by former Google data scientists. You are now always trackable and expose a lot about yourself. It may be for advertisements, the digital stalk, which it basically is, the gathering of information you’d think was private. They stalk you so they can advertise specifically to you. Think, however, of how violating that sounds, what if they did it in person.
This article does state the ‘who’, it is every single person out there with a smartphone. Everyone who uses their phone to browse the internet is being watched. Today in age, that’s basically everyone The ‘so what’ is also addressed stating the kinds of information gathered and the fact that there are companies specially tailored to tracking you. They essentially stalk you, lets say you have a routine where you check the news, they know now its your routine and later on will place advertisements based on the fact that you visit newspages. All this sophisticated computing, and just so they can advertise to you, now imagine what harm can be done if they really wanted to.

12:10 PM  
Blogger Angel Vargas said...

Angel Vargas
Professor Sabir
English 1A 8-8:50
6 October, 2013
They Say I Say

2. My point here that as long as people continue to think, as long as man has the ability to think, he will create factions. With each faction opposing the next. Should interest those who think that there will always be conflict in the world no matter the extent of which you go out of your way to fix it. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point
should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of why things happen and why they happen the way they do. Of why they had to happen to the people they did, in this case Mrs. Rosa Parks. It’s not that it happened specifically to her, its just that it happened, and she happened to be there. Think about other points in history other countries have gone through the same thing, but in a different manner and to different people. One prime example is of Nazi Germany, and we all know what happened there. What happened here with the segregation is nothing new in the world, it was however a relatively new issue in the United States.

12:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1. Bullies and Bullying written by Jennifer Ralston discusses the widespread problem of bullying, its impact on children being bullied, how bullying is seen as a factor causing the bullied to become violent and provides prevention programs and suggestions geared on combating the issue of bullying. Also,Ralston main argument is demonstrating the correlation between the Columbine shooting and school bullying.The Columbine shooting occurred when two senior students at Columbine High School brought guns to school and opened fired on the schools general population. The two boys embarked on a massacre, killing 12 students and 1 teacher, while injuring 24 other students. At the end of the massacre the two shooters ended up committing suicide. The National Association of School Psychologists and the U.S. Department of Justice “estimate that 160,000 students miss school every day because they are fearful of being bullied.” A study performed by the National Mental Health and Education Center states: “Bullying is the most common form of violence in our society and between 30% and 50% of students are bullies or victims.” Being a victims bullying can lead to low self esteem, depression and extreme violence towards other as in the case of Columbine. Psychologist analyzing why something so traumatic took place, concluded that being bullied was one of the main causes of this violent attack. While in school, the two boys were seen as outcast and ostracized. The two seniors were characterized as being anti-social and inclusive. They were constantly teased, picked on and tormented by the school’s athletes and other students. Due to the constant torment, the two students went into a deep depression and hatred towards the school and wanted to retaliate against it. Unfortunately, they took out their anger on the school’s student body through violence.Ralston believes that bullying is a “learned behavior”, so she recommends the implementation of bully prevention programs geared to influence and change the social norm of bullying. That means, bullying is seen as a rite of passage that every teenager goes through in their adolescences. Therefore, we need to change the mindset that bullying is “normal” and address the issue of bullying like it really is, an epidemic. She encourages teachers in these programs to discuss the impact and spread awareness of bullying to students. Through these programs, students will have the ability to communicate their feelings on bullying and figure out the best solutions to eliminate it.

1. My Response:
The author only points how bullying lead to serious violence and explains that bullying can lead to fatal violence but does not have an audience. The author raise awareness of bullying that it can become fatal which answers why readers should care but the author does not redefine the depth of society of bullying and does not really serve any purpose to bullying. Who is the author trying to influence? Bullies or ones who are being bullied. It makes a huge difference if audience is left out because we would be confused and if authors doesn't point out the dept of bullying because then nobody would care to read the article. I recommend that the author should include awareness to adults and bullies about consequences. The author should also indicate which audience the writer is trying to influence.

2. My point here is that Rosa Parks didn't just stick up for her rights but she also stick up for her people. Her courage came naturally to her to do what felt right and that simple act of courage also lead to stand up for other people. This should interest those who doesn't think about sticking

12:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


2. My point here is that Rosa Parks didn't just stick up for her rights but she also stick up for her people. Her courage came naturally to her to do what felt right and that simple act of courage also lead to stand up for other people. This should interest those who doesn't think about sticking up for one's belief is also a fight for many others who go through through the same and can also make a huge different in millions of other people lives.Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about standing up for his/herself and standing up for others can make a significant difference.

12:26 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Patrick Yu
Professor Sabir
English 1A 11-11:50
7 October 2013
They Say / I Say Ch.7 Exercises

1) The article I chose is "Quinoa's nutritional benefits" by Yanjun
Known as the "gold of the Incas" or the "supergrain of the future", quinoa is a superfood with a plethora of health benefits. While quinoa is growing in popularity and becoming more well known throughout the world and in the United States, many still do not understand the unique and significant health benefits that come from eating quinoa.

Quinoa is a "pseudocereal" that is consumed similarly to cereal grasses like wheat, oats and rye but is technically a member of the food family along with beets, spinach and Swiss chard.


1. Quinoa is antioxidant rich.

Quinoa contains the antioxidant phytonutrients quercetin and kaempferol. Additionally, quinoa has a great deal of anti-inflammatory phytonutrients as well. This can promote tissue growth and aide in tissue repair as well as fight off disease and infection.

2. Quinoa is high in protein.

Unlike many other carbohydrates or grains, quinoa has a large amount of protein per serving. There is more lysine and isoleucine in quinoa, which makes it capable of serving as a complete protein source in our diets. This superfood contains all nine amino acids, making it a truly protein-rich food.

3. Quinoa is high in calcium.

Quinoa also has a great deal of calcium in comparison to other grains in the same category. For example, quinoa has twice the amount of calcium as whole wheat when you compare the two ounce for ounce.

4. Quinoa is high in fiber.

Fiber is an essential nutrient that regulates blood sugar levels and regulates your digestive system by preventing and relieving constipation. Quinoa contains twice as much fiber as almost every other grain. Diets high in fiber with foods like quinoa have been known to lower cholesterol and can help you loose weight in a healthy way. Unlike other grains in the category, quinoa has a low glycemic index because of its chemical makeup and the amount of fiber, making it a great carbohydrate choice for diabetics that won't raise your blood sugar.

5. Quinoa contains Riboflavin (B2).

Quinoa has a significant amount of Riboflavin which helps to stimulate your metabolism. Quinoa will regulate and promote energy production in your brain and muscle cells while increasing your metabolism. Riboflavin has also been shown to be a contributing factor to migraine relief.

6. Quinoa may reduce the risk of Type 2 Diabetes and heart disease.

Though not many studies have been conducted yet on the correlation between eating quinoa and lowering your risk for type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular disease, quinoa has a great deal in common with other foods that reduce these risks. Thus, it is likely that with quinoa's fiber, protein and antioxidant makeup, it would reduce the risk of these diseases.

Easily prepared and gluten free, quinoa can be incorporated into a number of recipes including salads, soups and side dishes. It is a power-packed food that will give you a lot of bang for your buck with its nutritional makeup. Quinoa, one of the world's healthiest foods, contains important antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties, is rich in calcium, protein, fiber and Riboflavin and may reduce the risk of Type 2 Diabetes and heart disease, which truly makes it the grain of the future.

This article answers the "so what?" and "who cares" questions. The author clearly states the benefits of eating quinoa over other carbohydrates or grains. She answers by "who cares?" very effectively with her sixth point: Quinoa may reduce the risk of Type 2 Diabetes and heart disease. That section really gives a reason for readers to care about the benefits of eating quinoa.

11:36 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Patrick Yu
Professor Sabir
English 1A 11-11:50
They Say / I Say Ch.7 Exercises

2)

While serving time in the Norfolk Prison Colony, Malcolm X decided to write to old acquaintances. He wrote to high powers as well, which included the Mayor of Boston, the Governor of Massachusetts, Elijah Muhammad, and even Harry S. Truman, about his opinions on racial inequality. However, his education was limited, which made expressing himself into his letters difficult. This struggle, along with a very knowledgeable man he met in Charlestown Prison, inspired him to educate himself. He began by reading books, which resulted in failure due to his limited vocabulary. He never gave up. He figured the best way to develope his vocabulary was by studying a dictionary. He did so by copying everything onto his tablet. After completing a page, he would repeat everything that he has copied out loud until the definitions were memorized. He continued this process until he went through the entire dictionary. He was very proud of himself. Words that he never knew existed before were seared into his brain. Best of all, he was able to read and understand books. The rest of his time in prison was spent on reading. While reading, the months passed by very quickly for him. He did not even feel like he was imprisoned. However, he did feel free. Free to express himself through written language.

My point here is (that Malcolm X was very determined to learn how to read and write) should interest those who ever feel discouraged about accomplishing their goals. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of discouragement. Despite having very limited resources for learning how to read and write, Malcolm X still managed to do so. This shows that determination and hard work is how one achieves his/her goals.

11:36 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Samantha Gober
Professor Sabir
English 1A 8-8:50
6 October 2013
Chapter 7 They Say

Ex. 1
There’s been many boring lectures that I’ve sat through in my life and left asking the same question, “So what?” In the book They Say/I Say, the author states that the speaker or writer needs to answer this question so the listener or reader will understand the point behind the arguments being made. Otherwise, the audience is left puzzled and careless to what the speaker is saying.
One strategy the writer may use is making the consequences visible to the reader. Be convincing throughout your writing to keep the audience’s attention. In 50 Essays “The Declaration of Independence,” Thomas Jefferson does a swell job of making his point clear on independence to America. It is written that,
We hold these truths to be sacred and undeniable; that all men are created equal and independent, that from that equal creation they deserve rights inherent and inalienable, among which are the preservation of life, and liberty, and the spirit of happiness; that to secure these ends, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government shall become destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government laying its foundation on such principles and organizing powers in form, as to them shall seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness.
I suggest using words that make your writing powerful and touches the audience just as Jefferson did. Another technique would be to answer the “who cares?” question. Jefferson did not have to do so because Americans would obviously care about their independence. You will have to distinguish what needs to answer the question and what doesn’t. Once you master answering questions such as “so what?” and “who cares?” you will draw more attention to your work and create better arguments.

Ex. 2
Literacy and freedom both come from a broad base. The way many people put two and two together can greatly differ. There are those who lack literacy and it does not seem to phase them because they would rather be what society considers “cool” than be called a nerd. That is concerning. Although it is in great interest to me, there are some who do not want to go to school and achieve a higher education. However, those same people believe it is their right to be free and do not understand the true meaning of freedom. Many citizens would agree with the fact that literacy should be a very important aspect in everyone’s life. Your education determines your career path and success. That should not be taken very lightly. My point here is how can you truly be free without literacy?

11:52 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

I agree with Lawrence about "Don't Blame the Eater" being a great example for exercise one. It answers the questions "so what?" and "who cares?" rather well. We Americans would be the one's who care about our health and eating habits. The outcome of our eating habits would answer the "so what?" question. If we choose to eat fast food then we will suffer the consequences such as obesity.

12:01 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

In the response to bullies and bullying, I agree that the author did answer the "so what?" question by stating the consequences of bullying and effects on those who are bullied. I disagree that there is no audience though. You don't need to stress that point to a certain group of people because bullying happens to a variety of ages and ethnicities. It is clear that the author is addressing anyone who has been bullied or knows someone who's been bullied. That being said, the author just wants to bring about awareness to what is happening.

12:07 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Chris Lee
Professor Sabir
English 1A
11-11:50
They Say I Say Chapter 7 Exercise

1. The article “Instruments of Danger in Weapons Case Were Dogs, Authorities Say” by J. David Goodman, is about two police officers reported that when they were chasing a drug suspect which led them into a Brooklyn row house, where James Austin saw the two police officers and commanded his dogs to attack them, however police officers shot and killed them. James Austin was then arrested on charges of menacing, assault, attempted assault and criminal possession of a weapon, where Austin two dogs (pit-bull) were considered as weapons. Furthermore in the article Goodman provides similar past events where in August 2012 a New Yorker was arrested on a weapons possession charge for a dog, yet continuing other cases or courts came to “find that dogs as an instrument and therefore a weapon”. These findings challenge the social order and common assumption that if we dogs like pit bulls or other dogs in similar sizes like German Shepherds that we the people may be arrested for having these breed of dogs if they happen to protect us by attacking others? Ultimately what is at stake here is that we who have or may get a dog might be arrested and charged with a weapon possession, this is where everybody has to be careful or unlawful justice may come to you for owning dog that may instinctively try to protect you instead of attacking someone.

2. My point here is that Rosa Parks is a Civil Rights hero and should interest those who want to the reason why she is a hero and how she became one. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of how Rosa Parks saved us all by fighting throughout her entire life to ensure the future generation will live in peace and equality and never suffer like anybody else who in lived and suffer in those harsh times.

2:12 PM  
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4:18 PM  
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Blogger isabel grande said...
Isabel Grande
Professor Sabir
English 1A 8-8:50 AM
07 October 2013
They Say,I say
Chap. 7


For exercise 1, I’m using the following article by Mark Winne, who has worked for 40 years as a community food activist, writer, and trainer. This article comes from his web site: http://www.markwinne.com/

Putting 40 years of community food system experience, activism, and policy advocacy to work for North America’s communities.
With the advent of industrialism and its widespread application to our food supply – factory farms, genetic engineering, and agricultural chemicals – the struggle between human freedom and authority has reached a critical juncture. In spite of the rapid growth of an alternative food system – local and sustainable food production, farmers’ markets, the public’s rising food consciousness – we become more dependent everyday on industrial agriculture whose representatives insist that it is the only way to feed a hungry world. In the face of such assertions, we must ask if our dependence on such a system threatens to supplant individual self-reliance. Will personal freedom succumb finally and forever to the dominant voice of authority? Are we at risk of sacrificing our democratic voice to self-appointed governing elites? These are no longer speculative questions suitable only for philosophers, but real-life concerns set squarely on the plate of every eater.

The “So what?”: In my opinion, Winne, in the above article urges for the preservation of our freedom to choose for a more sustainable way of food production, as it is currently being threaten to be taken away by the profit driven mass production of toxic unsustainable practices. We are at risk of losing our human right to choose how our food is being produce for consumption. Soon, if we don’t protect this right our only option for feeding ourselves will be whatever the “self-appointing governing elites” decides is profitable enough.

“Who cares”: The information in this article is of crucial value, to anyone person who cares for his/her right to choose how his food is grown to remain exercisable. It does not need to address any specific groups, like scientists, organizations, etc… mainly because this food advocate person- his audience, can be and should be, present in any shape or form in the human specie.


For exercise 2, I’m using my essay on Rosa Parks. My point here on Park’s consecration to human rights preservation, should interest those with a conscience. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of protecting our civil, and human rights from being eradicated by the oligarchy’s agenda for over all control on world's wealth and ruling power.

4:31 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

1. In the article I picked, "Cheating's Surprising Thrill" by Jan Hoffman, the author of the article reveals research into the feelings one has when they cheat and some of the thought behind cheating. It is revealed that when people cheat, on average they feel happier, more elated, and even superior to those who do not cheat. It is also revealed that cheating/ piracy costs companies billions of dollars in revenue worldwide. There were also potential solutions to cheating that involved, for example, having people sign their name on the beginning of an audit form.

The author of this article answers the "so what" and the "who cares" questions when they refer to the cost that companies pay from people pirating software or attempting to cheat on tax information.

5:09 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

2. In reference to my Rosa Parks essay: My point here is that Rosa Parks did indeed embody the definition of a rebel, but now that times have changed, the larger question to be posed is has rebellion itself changed in the 21st century? This should interest those who also question whether the same tactics Mrs. Parks used will work in the America we live in today. Beyond this limited issue, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of rebellion on a global scale.

5:16 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

In response to Denise Burgara, I agree that the author does include the answer to the "so what?" question, but I do believe that the author somewhat included the answer to the "who cares?" question. It is very briefly mentioned in the last sentence that the person who performed the research recommends not eating nuggets too often. Also the author included in the quote before that sentence that the researcher was stunned that they were marketing them to kids. Right there, the audience is targeted as parents of those kids who are being targeted, and in general anyone who eats nuggets from a fast food chain.

In response to Isabel Grande, I agree with both points you made about the article.

5:24 PM  
Blogger Huy Vo (11-11:50) said...

Huy Vo
Professor Wanda
English 1A, 11-11:50
October 7, 2013
They Say I Say
They Say I Say Chapter 7
Andrew Pollock from The New York Times writes:

The balmy tropical isles here seem worlds apart from the expansive cornfields of the Midwest, but Hawaii has become the latest battleground in the fight over genetically modified crops.
Over the last decade, the state has become a hub for the development of genetically engineered corn and other crops that are sold to farmers around the globe. Monsanto and other seed companies have moved here en masse, and corn now sprouts on thousands of acres where sugar or pineapples once grew.
But activists opposed to biotech crops have joined with residents who say the corn farms expose them to dust and pesticides, and they are trying to drive the companies away, or at least rein them in. The companies counter that their operations are safe and that the industry is essential to Hawaii’s economy.
In the last two weeks, legislative committees on the islands of Kauai and Hawaii have approved proposed ordinances that would restrict the ability of the seed companies to operate. The Kauai bill will go before the full County Council on Tuesday.
Andrew Pollock address two questions that the books ask for: who care and so what? The American ground by which the American live in is affect, in turn affects the American people. The idea for safe food and genetically modified crop is a contentious agreement and must be taken seriously because millions of people will be affected by the legislative decision.

2. My point here is that the people’s liberty to marry anyone should interest people. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of gay marriage is the liberty to marry anything. The larger issue of gay marriage is foregrounding the rights to marry anyone or anything. Society at this point of age must answer the question is gay marriage moral or immoral. We must be able to answer what constitute what is just if were to advance our understanding of the nature of human thinking. This topic will affect everyone in society.

5:28 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Anita Madden
Professor Sabir
English 1A 11-11:50
7 October 2013
They Say Chapter 7


The horrible, horrible tragedy that occurred in Newtown, Conn., has revived the debate on gun control regulations. Should there be more guns? Should there be fewer guns? No guns at all? What is the reason anyone needs an assault rifle to begin with?
Before stating opinions, it is imperative to look at the numbers. I am not talking about pro-gun or anti-gun activist’s reports, rather a completely neutral approach that deals directly with statistics.
It would be wrong to state that either extreme would be a viable option; without any guns (other than the government, obviously), the average father with 2 children wouldn’t be able to protect his family. People forget that the main reason we have the right to bear arms is for protection. On the other hand, if gun control laws remain stagnant or even become more lenient, I fear that the U.S will become even a more dangerous place than it is already.
Firearms were used to kill 30,143 people in the United States in 2005, the most recent year with complete data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. A total of 17,002 of these were suicides, 12,352 homicides, and 789 accidental firearm deaths. When we consider that there were also nearly 70,000 nonfatal injuries from firearms, we are left with the staggering fact that 100,000 men, women, and children were killed or wounded by firearms in the span of just one year. More people die via gun violence than HIV and Parkinson’s.

Response:
The article I found online addresses the "what" and the "who". The what in this article is talking about the pros and cons of being able to own a gun for protection but the cons out weigh the pros. The "who" is how there are more people dying to gun violence verses HIV and Parkinson’s. The objective of this article is the use and ownership of guns prevents a lot of violence that could have been preventable.

2. My point here is that Rosa Parks ultimately stood up for what she believed in which was economic freedom and equality. Her courage and stand for this would interest others in the black community. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of being treated equally.

6:19 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Kimberly Young
Professor Sabir
English 1A, 8:00-8:50
7 October 2013
“They Say I Say” Chapter 7
1) In the “Don't Blame the Eater” by David Zinczenko, Zinczenko addresses both questions: so what and who cares. He answers both question by asking the audience questions, which they would be able to relate to. This helps to include the audience's view on a certain topic that he is writing about. Zinczenko uses I's in his article which help him convey his point of view on his topic, this addresses the question who cares. From answering both questions I can get a 360 degree view on what the author thinks and is trying to get across in his writing. The same is for the article “Nuclear Waste” by Richard A. Muller. In Muller's article he also addresses both questions. He tell the audience what his view on the topic is then, he goes on and explains the reasons why he says what he says. He uses support to back up his topic, which answers the question so what. I thought that both of these articles were really well written, which makes it easier for the readers to read. The authors of both of these articles includes their point of view on the topic in the writing. I thought this a very clever ideas and it is something I would like to borrow for my own writings.
2) In chapter five of “The Rebellious Life of Rosa Parks,” Jeanne Theoharis portrays the high price that Parks had to bear, along with becoming a revolutionist. My point here is that Parks suffering through many hardships before she was able to succeed and should interest those who only know the famous legend of Rosa Parks. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of Rosa Parks’ integrity and innocence. Many have just thought that Parks sitting in the bus was what help changed the world of discrimination, but it wasn’t. It was Parks' hard work towards battling injustice that transformed the rights of African American.

6:47 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

I agree with Samantha and Lawerence that the "Don't Blame the Eater" piece addressed the questions: so what and who cares pretty well.

To add to Anita's point, i think Rosa Parks' hardships helped to display the courage and bravery that she showed against the black inequality.

6:51 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Milin Khunkhun
Professor Sabir
English 1A (10-10:50)
7 October 2013
They Say/ I Say Ch. 7 #1,2

1. In Microscope on the U.S. Food Supply In ‘GMO OMG,’ Jeremy Seifert Takes on a Complex Subject, it does answer the "so what?" and "who cares?" questions. He answers "so what?" by relating it to the "who cares" question, he appeals to the audience by relating GMOs and children and he specifically calls out the people who might know about GMOs. For the "who cares?" question the author targets parents and their children to create and interest in their minds. If the author did not answer the "so what?" and "who cares?" questions his message would not hit the specific audience he was hoping to intrigue in his writing. I could borrow his technique of actually stating the audience he hopes to target. I wouldn't recommend anything because this article does answer the questions well.

2. In my Rosa Parks essay, I seem to not indicate "so what?" and "who cares?" very well.
My point here is that rebels, like Rosa Parks, should interest those who have a desire to challenge social norms wether it be revolting against a unfair government or rights. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of unfairness that should be challenged for the greater good.

RESPONSE to Exercise 1:
1. I agree with Kimberly Young when she says that Zinczenko answers "who cares?" by questioning the audience. I believe this is a good way to answer "who cares?" because who are allowing the audience to question themselves and their thoughts yet in the same views of the author.
2. I also agree with Lawrence Cheung when he says that Zinczenko answers "who cares" when he quiestions our society. When the author does this he also brings in the audience where they then start to think about Zinczenko views and become involved in it.

7:38 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Ivon Pena
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10:00am- 10:50am
7 October 2013
They Say/ I Say Chapter. 7 #1, 2

1. “Designing Web Sites for the Blind” by John Lescher
On Lescher, principal of a market research firm called Vivamus Concepts, discussed in his article “Designing Web Sites for the Blind” how to make web sites more accessible to blind and visually impaired people. Lescher addresses the “so what?” By mentioning that “Vision problems affect about ten million people. “and that “By age 65, most people have lost at least some of their ability to focus, resolve images, distinguish colors, and adapt to changes in light.” Although it doesn’t specifically say it, what these facts are meant to do is to show web site owners and designers how important it is to make websites accessible. The article is obviously meant for website owners and designers since it is an article that discusses specific tips to make a website easily accessible, but Lescher states the following: “Currently, making information on the Web accessible is voluntary. While I don't think this will change, it might, particularly if the Americans with Disabilities Act become applicable to Web sites.” This answers the “who cares?” questions because if it indeed became applicable to websites then every website designer would have to take into account accessibility for the disabled.
2. By clarifying the “so what?” and “who cares?” Questions, it helps the audience get involved in the reading because they know if they are and how they are affected by what they are reading. It makes the reading more interesting once you understand the meaning of the information being shown. One technique authors use to answer these questions is to talk about the consequences or results this information leads to. If people understand the consequences then they can see who it affects the most.

7:56 PM  
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Jacky Christie
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10-10:50
10/7/13
Chapter 7


1. Herald Sun (Australia)
April 4, 2012 Wednesday
1 - FIRST Edition
GUN CRAZY Seven killed in another US college shooting
SECTION: NEWS; Pg. 21
LENGTH: 530 words
A GUNMAN has opened fire at a Christian university in California, killing at least seven people and wounding three more.
The shootings set off a chaotic manhunt that ended hours later with a suspect's capture at a shopping centre.
Police named him as One Goh, 43, a local Korean resident.
Witnesses said Mr Goh stood up in a classroom at Oikos University, shot one person in the chest at point-blank range, then sprayed the room with bullets.
For at least an hour, heavily armed officers swarmed through the university, in a large industrial park near the airport at East Oakland, believing the gunman could still be inside.
Tashi Wangchuk, whose wife is a student who saw the shooting, said police told him Mr Goh had first shot a woman at the front desk, then continued shooting randomly in classrooms.
Mr Wangchuk said his wife, Dechen Wangzom, was in her nursing class when she heard gunshots. She locked the door and turned off the lights.
The gunman ``banged on the door several times and started shooting outside and left'', Mr Wangchuk said. He said no one was hurt inside his wife's classroom, but that the gunman had shot out the glass in the door.
``She's a hero,'' he said.
Deborah Lee, who was in an English language class, said she heard five to six gunshots at first.
``The teacher said, `Run', and we run,'' she said.
``I was OK, because I know God protects me. I'm not afraid of him.''
Television footage showed bloodied victims on stretchers being loaded into ambulances.
Several bodies covered in sheets were laid out on a patch of grass at the university. One was loaded into a van.
Police believe Mr Goh, described as a former nursing student, acted alone, though they had not discussed a possible motive.
The small private university serves the Korean community, offering courses from theology to Asian medicine.


My Response:
I find that this particular article provides no other purpose than to directly inform the reader of an event. I do not believe there is much direct signaling toward "so what?" or "who cares?" questions. It does appear though that, given the topic, they wouldn't need to answer these sort of questions directly. After all, who wouldn't care about several innocent college students being gunned down? Perhaps, if our audience was supposed to be literally any potential reader, those in states other than California, perhaps up north, or along the East coast, would not see direct relevance of this event to their lives. They may feel shock, of course, and sad for those whose lives were taken, but perhaps they won't see the topic as something they in particular should care about.

9:13 PM  
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Tergel Battogtokh
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10:00am-10:50am
7,October 2013
They Say/ I Say Chapter 7 #1,2

1)Los Angeles students get iPads for classroom, play video games instead By Chris Morrison

You have to give school officials in Los Angeles credit for a good idea: put iPads in the hands of over 650,000 students to give them the most advanced learning tools available in an effort to boost their interest in academics.
But the $1 billion plan is taking some heat after students in the nation's second-largest school district cracked the tablets’ security settings to forgo reading, writing and ‘rithmetic and instead post on Facebook and play games during class time.
"They kind of should have known this would happen," said Maria Aguilera, a student at one of the schools where games briefly replaced academia. "We're high school students after all. I mean, come on." Surfing and an unnamed car racing game. The program's goal is to put an iPad in the hands of every student and teacher in the district’s 1,000 schools by next year. Officials say they were hoping to assist students in a district where 80 percent of the students come from low-income families.

1, Response. Who Cares? The Author did a very well of connecting the audience to today's biggest sought out material object, Electronics. Althought he didnt have to use much tricks to reel the readers in, he simply put out the 1 Billion dollar budget very early in the article which hooked me in as a reader. Then went on to quote a student and gave their insight on the subject.

2)My point here is that Rosa Parks was not the person that many people thought she was which should interest those who assumed her role in the civil rights movement began on that faithful evening when she refused to give her seat. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of Mrs. Parks political life is that her activism began years before the bus incident.

9:19 PM  
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Jacky Christie
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10-10:50
10/7/13
Student Response to Ch. 7 Exercise 1

1. In response to Denise Burgara, it does appear that Scott Sunde addresses the "what" of the topic- that being, how scientifically unhealthy chicken nuggets are- but does not address the "who", as in "who should care?". I agree that it is important to make this distinction when meeting ALL the interests of the audience.

2. In response to Ivon Pena, I too believe John Leschers' article does a thorough job of noting how his topic is important to his audience. Rather than just looking for facts he can use as support, Lescher uses facts that work as a bridge between his topic and the lives of his readers.

9:25 PM  
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Jacky Christie
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10-10:50
10/7/13
Ch. 7 Exercise 2
Looking over my Rosa Parks essay, I believe that I don't do a very thorough job of identifying "so what?" or "who cares" for my audience. I try to connect my "definition of a rebel" to the daily life most, so that it applies interest to the majority of my readers. I think I could have made this a little clearer by writing more away from the book and more toward my thesis: MY definition of a rebel.

9:37 PM  
Blogger Michael Cunningham said...

Michael Cunningham
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10-10:50
7 October 2013

Exercise 1:
Do childhood rapes by her father excuse her crimes?
The rapes started when Tatiana Thibes was a child. Her father's sexual assaults became more frequent as she grew older and were accompanied by beatings and torture, she recounted in court years later. He used surveillance cameras, she said, to keep her a prisoner at home. When he was arrested for stabbing her in the chest, an investigation revealed through DNA testing that he had fathered her three children. After her father was sentenced to life in prison, Thibes spoke of overcoming her 19-year ordeal by becoming a therapist to help other victims of sex abuse.
But four years later, the 33-year-old recently appeared in the same downtown Los Angeles courthouse where she once testified against her father, this time as a defendant. Thibes has been in court for multiple hearings while judges and prosecutors decide what punishment she deserves. She could be sentenced to prison after her conviction last year for helping three gang members burglarize homes in Tujunga. (The Times generally withholds the name of sex crime victims, but Thibes wanted her name used.) "I know I messed up. I feel like I let a lot of people down. I'm ashamed," Thibes said in a recent phone interview from jail.
Cases like Thibes' are a thorny challenge for the criminal justice system, one that judges and prosecutors routinely wrestle with: How should the courts punish serious offenders who have themselves endured difficult or abusive upbringings? The prosecutor who tried her burglary case said he feels torn as his office considers an appropriate sentence.

Rick Carr, a veteran Torrance police sex crimes investigator, was used to hearing harrowing accounts of abuse, but even he was shocked by the report he took in 2005. Thibes was living in a Torrance apartment when she spoke to Carr about the sexual abuse. By then her father, Lindolfo, had already been arrested for stabbing her in Las Vegas. She told Carr that her father began assaulting her when the family was living in Los Angeles and her mother was working as an overnight baby-sitter. He plied her with alcohol and drugs, starting with marijuana and later cocaine. He threatened to kill or blind her if she reported him.
He pulled her out of school when she was in sixth grade and rigged the family's West Adams home with surveillance cameras to monitor her movements and prevent her escape. He tortured her by beating the soles of her feet with a wooden stick and covered her head with a plastic bag until she passed out. At 17, she gave birth to a child by him. By 24, she had had two more of his children. "What this woman had to endure was unspeakable," said Carr, now retired from the Police Department.
My response:
- In this article I found on Los Angeles Times the author of the article does use the “So What” and “Who Cares” aspect of the article. In the article when the author states, “Cases like Thibes’ are a thorny challenge for the criminal justice system, one that judges and prosecutors routinely wrestle with: How should the courts punish serious offenders who have themselves endured difficult or abusive upbringings? The prosecutor who tried her burglary case said he feels torn as his office considers an appropriate sentence.”
Exercise 2:
My point here is that in the NBA (National Basketball Association) wants to put an age cap on the US Olympic roster, this should interest those players who are now going to be eligible due to the age cap and given a chance. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue that basketball is supposed to be fun, why are we going to put an age cap on the Olympics that is not fun for the players ineligible.

9:50 PM  
Blogger Michael Cunningham said...

In response to Ivon Pena the article that John Lescher wrote about designing websites for the blind does answer the “So What” aspect of the article like she stated when the author states that vision problems affect about ten million people. And that by the age of 65 most people have lost at least some of their ability to focus, resolve things, distinguish colors and adapting to changes in light. This was a good article to pick it clearly fit in with the exercise purpose.

10:00 PM  
Blogger Michael Cunningham said...

In response to Lawrence and his choice in “Don’t Blame the Eater” it was a good match for the article exercise. In the article the author clearly uses “So What” to help keep the reader interested and not confused.

10:03 PM  
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Ariana Yu
Professor Sabir
English 1A, 8:00-8:50AM
7 October 2013

They Say/I Say Response (Pg. 100-101)

1) The first article that I read is titled, “Crocodiles disappearing as dinner in Jamaica”, by an associated press member David McDaffen. This article does answer “so what” and “who cares”. McDaffen’s main point is that crocodiles are now extremely hard to spot, not because they camouflage well, but because many people are hunting them as a food source. He also adds that the hunters are not being punished, despite the law passed in 1971 regarding crocodiles. His audience is mainly everyone, but probably more towards animal advocates. No one wants another extinct animal. One strategy I can learn from this article is answering the question, “why is this important?” By answering “so what” and “who cares”, the author is able to keep the audience’s attention. My advice for the author would be to state how this affects the everyday lives of citizens.
Another article I read, “9-year-old reader accused of hogging library reading program,” by Mark Mulholland, also answers both those questions. This article is about the library board accusing a nine-year-old of “hogging” the summer reading program prizes, and claiming that he should step aside for the other kids. The title of this article already answers the questions “so what” and “who cares”, since, as a normal reader, I started getting angry while reading it. The significant thing I learned from this is how the title is a powerful magnet for attracting readers when used properly.
The third article I read, “If You Send Your Kid to Private School, You Are a Bad Person,” by Allison Benedikt, does not answer the question “so what” and “who cares”. In my opinion, it addresses the two questions, but do not fully answer them. After reading this, I felt that all it did was attack the people who send their kids to private schools. Many people who read this piece of writing would simply dispose of it due to its constant negative attacking. I learned many things from this not-so-good article, however. I found out that tone of voice is essential to good writing. When a text sounds more of a rant than a persuasive writing, it loses its audience.

2) My point here (that Rosa Parks is and will forever remain a rebel) should interest those who do not view her as anyone out of the ordinary. It is mainly aimed towards the people who only know the one simple thing she did, and nothing else outside of that. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of what she accomplished in her life and her struggles while trying to achieve her goals for African American equality.

10:28 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Ariana Yu
Professor Sabir
English 1A, 8:00-8:50AM
7 October 2013

Response to Others

I agree with Lawrence Cheung that in David Zinczenko’s “Don’t Blame the Eater,” Zinczenko answers the questions “who cares” and “so what” well. It allowed the readers to see both sides of an issue, eliminating some biases readers may have.
I also agree with Kimberly Young that Richard A. Muller points out the “who cares” and “so what” very well in his article “Nuclear Waste” by using examples and explanations.

10:34 PM  
Blogger Derek Oyama said...

Derek Oyama
Professor Sabir
English 1A 11-11:50
10/7/13
They Say I Say Chapter Seven 1,2

1.Big Food vs. Big Insurance
By Michael Pollan

By openly connecting the health crises facing America he links the "so what" to the "who cares" by making the nation wide problem all at once a personal decision. In doing so it makes the article both easier to comprehend and apply to daily life. He answers the questions by stating the monumental tasks of reworking two of the biggest and most powerful industries into a personal struggle for health in an increasingly unhealthy world. He makes it quite clear why and how the issue is important before making his points which i felt was really well done.

2. My point here that Rosa Parks was a rebel in spite of her being demeaned as mild-mannered seamstress, should interest those who are politically minded. However outside that limited group anyone with a stake in personal rights today should take note of her struggle.

10:52 PM  
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Saleena Carpenter
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10-10:50am
7 October 2013
They Say I Say ch.7 exercises

1)

USDA issues health alert for some California chicken

Published October 07, 2013/
Associated Press


SACRAMENTO, Calif. – The U.S. Department of Agriculture on Monday issued a public health alert for raw chicken packaged at three Foster Farms facilities in California after 278 people fell ill.

Strains of Salmonella Heidelberg are associated with chicken distributed to retail outlets in California, Oregon and Washington state, the USDA said in a statement.

The Salmonella outbreak has spread to 18 states, though most of the reported illnesses have been in California.

The outbreak appears to have begun in March and the USDA was notified of the illnesses in July, said Dan Engeljohn of the USDA's Food Safety and Inspection Service. Investigators had a difficult time pinpointing the source of the illnesses, Englejohn said.

A spokesman for Foster Farms says no recall was in effect and that the infections were caused by eating chicken that was undercooked or improperly handled.

The USDA has not directly linked the outbreak of illnesses to a specific product or production period. The USDA mark on suspect packages would read: P6137, P6137A and P7632.

Messages left with California state health officials were not immediately returned.

Cooking chicken to 165-degrees kills the Salmonella bacteria.


My Response to Article: In my article the author successfully answers "who care?" when he/she mentions the USDA issued health alert. I also believe he/she answers "so what?" when briefly explain how salmonella causes illness and is causing illness in California, Oregon and Washington State. the author also mentions certain people like the Dan EngelJohn, a member of the USDA's inspection service, and a spokesperson from Foster Farms and their opinions. I think it makes a huge difference when you answer "so what?" and "who cares?" questions because it allows your audiences/readers to successfully interpret your writing. I would definitely use the technique of mentioning specific peoples opinions.

In response to Michael Cunningham the article do childhood rapes by her father excuse her crimes? I think you made a good choice in choosing this article. It shows the right way to answer "so what?" and "who cares?" It states who the court decision will affect and how the person who has to make the decision feels.

In response to Denise Burgara we chose similar articles and they are slightly different because while yours does answer "so what?" it does not answer "who cares?".

2. My point here that being a rebel is something you are born with, you don't just do it by choice, should interest those who consider themselves rebels or wonder if they should define themselves as a rebel. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of never compromising your own beliefs and demanding respect, even if you have to be rebellious to do so.

10:54 PM  
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Sophia Preach
Professor Sabir
English 1A (10:00-10:50)
7 October 2013
Chapter 7 They Say/ I Say
Exercise 1
Article "When Clothes No Longer Make the Man" By Lee Siegel
My article is basically on the correlations between clothing and character. The article provides examples of costume designs effect on characters in movies and in books and also talks about the changes to this in the modern day.
The author of this article essentially answers why the topic is relevant by providing examples of instances of clothing having an effect on characters in great texts such as "Pride and Prejudice" and also modern examples like the costume design for the new Great Gatsby movie. I think this is an effective way to prove why your point is important because it is giving evidence.
Exercise 2
In my Rosa Parks essay I begin to touch on the "so what?" and "who cares?" article but I could accomplish my point better if was to include more examples about Rosa Park's life besides her work in the bus boycott.

10:55 PM  
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Mussa Obad
Wanda Sabir
English 1A (11-11:50)
10/7/13
They Say Chapter 7

1)
What Causes Teen Violence

Why teens become violent

There are several theories as to why teens act out in violence. Some of the more common reasons for acting out involve modeling behaviors. If teens see violence at home, in the movies, in video games, or on the street, they are more inclined to copy such behaviors. Others, who experience bullying or teasing, become enraged enough to begin acting out in revenge. This can be another cause of teen violence.

Lashing out in response to what has been seen or experienced does not account for all instances of teen violence, however. According to the Centers for Disease Control, teen violence can also be caused by frustration due to learning disorders, emotional distress, or attention deficits. In some cases teens do not know how to appropriately channel their frustrations and act out in anger as a form of release.

No one answer to what causes teen violence

The fact of the matter is that there is no way to directly point to one cause in most cases of teen violence. Because human beings are complex entities, and because there are usually many different factors that come into play, most experts prefer to refer to possible causes as risk factors, rather than actual causes. When most teens act out violence, it is usually due to a variety of reasons, rather than just one cause.

Increasing the chance of acting out in violence

While having fleeting thoughts of violence is normal, there are some things that can contribute to the likelihood of a teen acting out in a violent manner. Dwelling on violent thoughts or playing out violent fantasies mentally on a regular basis can lead to the actual act of violence. Related to playing out fantasies is actually planning out acts of violence. Actually making a plan can be one of the catalysts that actually causes the teen to take a violent step.

Accessibility of the means to carry out violence is another cause of teen violence. Most experts agree that when a teen has access to the tools necessary for a violent plan, the chances of teen violence actually occurring increase. This is especially true when teens have access to guns and other weapons, such as knives and clubs. So, while an exact cause of teen violence cannot be pinpointed, there are definite factors that contribute to the likelihood of it actually taking place.
My response:
This article covered basic points about what causes teen violence. Recent studies like these shed new light on teen violence, which previous studies had not addressed. We know that teen violence is a delicate issue and is disheartening to communities for teen violence, but does anybody really care about what triggers teen violence? Although it made solid arguments about what triggers teen violence, the people would rather want to know how to stop teen violence.

2)
My point here (that Rosa Parks was a rebel) should interest those who believe in standing up for what is right. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of society and the discrimination it faces. Rosa Parks took on a challenge in contributing in the fight to end segregation and inequality in America. Even today there is still discrimination, and Rosa Parks paved the way for us to peacefully protest issues we face in society.

10:59 PM  
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Mervin Deguzman
Prof. Wanda Sabir
English 1A
0800-0850
Ex. 1 from They say/I Say pg. 100

1. Kids and adults will stay glued to video games this holiday season because the fun of playing actually is rooted in fulfilling their basic psychological needs. Psychologists at the University of Rochester, in collaboration with Immersyve, Inc., a virtual environment think tank, asked 1,000 gamers what motivates them to keep playing. The results published in the journal Motivation and Emotion this month suggest that people enjoy video games because they find them intrinsically satisfying. The research found that games can provide opportunities for achievement, freedom, and even a connection to other players. Those benefits trumped a shallow sense of fun, which doesn't keep players as interested. Rather than dissect the actual games, which other researchers have done, the Rochester team looked at the underlying motives and satisfactions that can spark players' interests and sustain them during play. Revenues from video games--even before the latest Wii, PlayStation 3, and Xbox systems emerged--surpass the money made from Hollywood films annually. A range of demographic groups plays video games, and key to understanding their enjoyment is the motivational pull of the games.
Four groups of people were asked to play different games, including one group tackling "massively multiplayer online" games--MMO for short, which are considered the fastest growing segment of the computer gaming industry. MMOs are capable of supporting hundreds of thousands of players simultaneously. For those playing MMOs, the need for relatedness emerged "as an important satisfaction that promotes a sense of presence, game enjoyment, and an intention for future play," the researchers found.
Though different types of games and game environments were studied, Ryan points out that "not all video games are created equal" in their ability to satisfy basic psychological needs. "But those that do may be the best at keeping players coming back."


Read more at: http://phys.org/news86358590.html#jCp

My response:
I have read this article and as a gamer, it was intriguing for me to read on how they perform their research on the psychological need to keep playing video games. The authors made pretty good arguments and their pretty spot on as well. They talked about several topics like what the video game contents are in order to make the gamers play that game and how it could be a positive thing to play video games. They answered such topic from studying the gamers and "feeling a lot more positive" after a game. They made very good arguments and had many sources to back up their argument. Such strategies could be very useful for me in the future when I write my own article.

2. My point here is that Rosa Parks wasn't just a rebel; she was a heroine that everyone looked up to and should interest those who look for a great role model in their lives. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of poverty in our country. Everyone needs to start thinking about other people's lives and how it is being affected and not just their own.

11:02 PM  
Blogger Derek Oyama said...

To Anita Madden while i agree that the article argues whether guns should or should not be used in self-defense it also argues for keeping gun control laws at the same rates to protect everyone in the United States equally

To Milin Khunkhun not to be mean but the article is about the movie's failings to accurately portray GMOs rather than anything else and he goes on for a while about how if you would want to know more about them that the movies reviewed was a poor choice for that

11:03 PM  
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Melon Yemane
Professor Sabir
English 1A 11-11:50
7 October 2013
They Say / I Say Ch.7 Exercises

In the San Leandro Times Newspaper Article "City Employees Agree to Help Fund Pensions" by Amy Sylvestri she discusses part of the financial plan for employees in the area. It is a divided three year contract that will allow employees of San Leandro to directly pay for their own pension although the pay raise will be cut shorter. This is a good deal compared to the old pension plan because it affected the city, by paying half while the employees paid the other half. "Employees will pay 2 percent this year and that amount will increase by 3 percent each year until maximum is reached" LaTanya Bellow reports. By 2014 they will pay 6 percent of their salaries in pension and will receive a 4 percent raise, and by 2015 they'll pay the full employee pension of 9 percent and may receive as high as an 8 percent raise! On the contrary unions will strike up the city cost $36,000 their first year, $81,000 the second, and $135,000 the last year.

Melon's Response: In this Article I found in my local paper I believe Mrs. Sylvestri did the job of what was accepted of her, which was to inform the reader of WHY San Leandro employees agreed to finance their own pensions out their pay check solely. Her audience was the employees of San Leandro therefore the ones "WHO CARES?" would be these people. As for "SO WHAT?" If you're not an employee of this city you may not otherwise this may be something that will interest you. I feel if an author does not announce who she or he is speaking to then it leaves the reader confused (the "who cares?" portion). I could take into note the next time I am writing to clearly state who I am writing to. Recommendations I'd give to authors about strategies or techniques in this chapter would be use the naysayer! It helps draw your point out better!


2. My point here that Rosa Parks was known for the heroic gestures she was took part in, that no matter how many people were against her or to scared. She should interest those who want to make a difference in not world but just their lives weather that may be joining the board of nutritionist in their home town to stop obesity in young children or just standing up to something that just isn't right. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of equality and opportunity.

11:10 PM  
Blogger Briana Del Cid said...

Briana Del Cid
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10-10:50
3 October 2013
“So What? Who Cares?”
1. The difference is that if you read an article without a “so what” or “who cares” it doesn’t make me feel like I should keep reading the article. It also seems like the author expects you to automatically believe in their word like it is from the bible. If they have a purpose at the end it doesn’t leave you with so many questions. The authors that do answer these implied questions do so by indicating who cares. Yes there techniques could be used for my own writing, with minor tweaks of course. I would recommend to the author’s writing that I read about to establish why there claims matter.
2. My point here (that in The True Story of Hansel and Gretel) should interest those who have often felt like they lose something they care about and never seem to find it again. Beyond this limit audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of finding something that replaces what they had lost. For example in the story, Hansel and Gretel lose their home and family in the ghetto but later are taken in by are elderly woman and find a warm cozy home and caring family.

11:44 PM  
Blogger Briana Del Cid said...

Briana Del Cid
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10-10:50
3 October 2013

Response to Others
I agree with Ariana Yu in that if the author is just attacking a group of people in an article it loses its creditability and most people will trash it. A rant should still have a “so what” and “who cares” which according to Ariana Yu it does not.
Milin brought up a good point about relating the “so what” by addressing the “who cares”. It was something I had not thought about but now it sounds like a good writing tactic.

11:53 PM  
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Alma Ramirez
Prof. Sabir
English 1A
8-8:50AM
They Say I Say Ch. 7 Pg.100 Exercise 1 and 2
1.My article named “Looking at food photos on Instagram can actually hurt your appetite, says study” by Daniel Bean from Yahoo News talks about how the social website Instagram has many of its users posting pictures of food throughout the day, and this can actually affect one’s own appetite. In my opinion, the author does a good job at answering the questions of “so what” and “who cares”. Daniel Bean explains how a new research had been done in which people were asked to look at either salty or sweet foods, and these people actually answered satisfied from these cravings after looking at pictures of food from the site Instagram. Daniel Beans provides us with facts from this research to show that this can really affect one’s hunger and also his use of pictures in the articles can help us understand his point a bit more.

2.In my essay on Mrs. Rosa Parks, I answered the questions of “so what” and “who cares” throughout my essay. I explained how Mrs. Parks is actually a rebel throughout her life, not just one day compared to popular belief. I think I could improve my essay by adding more examples of the actions Mrs. Rosa Parks took.

11:58 PM  
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Kaleb L. Beyene
Professor Wanda Sabir
English 1A 11-11:50
7 October 2013
Chapter 7

1. Addressing questions like “so what?” and “who cares?” give so many importances for one good writer. Answering those questions could keep any reader to focus on a complex set of ideas in the text and prevent the reader from getting lost in extraneous details or vague dialogue. Authors may use different techniques to address those questions. Among those mechanisms, focusing on their real clean claim, enriching their text by evidences and implying the written text in a part of a larger conversation are some of them. From the different techniques writers use to answer those questions, naming specific peoples or groups who have stake in your claims and discussing about that claim in detail is the prominent once. I recommend for any author to be contextual in using different strategies to clarify this questions accordingly with the type of text he wrote and the writing method he prefer to elaborate his arguments.

2.
The original
When someone is so eager to cause change or to improve things positively and becomes so much ready to overcome whatever consequences he will face before he achieve his goals, it is possible to say that person is rebellious. Being a resistant or revolutionary against any form of injustice could also be some indicator of being a rebel. In Mrs. Rosa Parks’s character we can see when all those qualities appeared together.
Edited
My point here is that when someone is so resistant to change or to improve things positively and becomes so much ready to overcome whatever consequences he will face before he achieve his goals, it is possible to say that person is rebellious. Although, peoples might argue by saying being a resistant or revolutionary against any form of injustice could also be some indicator of being a rebel. Even if this interpretation seems nearsighted, its main idea is similar with my former argument. Ultimately, what is obvious here is in Mrs. Rosa Parks’s character we can see all those qualities appeared together.

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In response to Saleena Carpenter, I think the author of the article you selected,which is named "USDA issues health alert for some California chicken",does a good job at answering the "so what" and "who cares". The author gives very good updated information to people which can affect their health. I agree with you that answering these questions in one's writing can help readers understand what you are trying to say more, and it also helps keep them engaged.

12:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lesnea bouthavong
Engl1A 11-11:50 class
Professor Sabir
Octobe 7,2013

My post is under the username eluzivequeen.

1:52 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Fin Saephan
Wanda Sabir
English1A 8am
October 8, 2013
They Say P.100 Exercises 1, 2

1) In “3 soldiers arrested in fellow soldier’s stabbing death” written by Chuck Johnston and Jason Hanna with CNN, arrests were made in the stabbing of a fellow soldier who died as a result. This article did not answer the question “so what?” but it does give the “who cares?” a valid answer. Since the article was written with being objective in mind, it’s those two questions that are implicitly hidden because the author has to remain detached from answering those questions. The reader can choose to identify with what is written or just turn away. In order to convey a point effectively and have the reader identify with the writing, the author should definitely answer those questions of “so what?” and “who cares?” I would recommend it.

In another essay from “50 Essay”, Frederick Douglass wrote his piece on the importance of learning to read and write. The author stresses how learning to read and write leads him to becoming an abolitionist and eventually a freeman. His essay was pretty compelling and it answers both questions. By answering the questions, it made a huge difference because the reader can follow through the emotions the write is going though. Since the issue of slavery isn’t well taught in school, it may matters to the reader because it’s an issue everyone should care about.

2) In an essay I’ve written about Helen Killer, I have indicated both questions. For instance, answering the “so what?” question would be that Helen’s new found ability will open up a whole new world to her. To answer the question “who cares?” obviously the people who have or know someone who has a disability would care about it. Sharing those experiences is something we humans do.

6:34 AM  
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Zubair Mohmand
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10-10:50
07 October 2013
They Say P.100 Exercises 1,2

1. In the Contra Costa Times article, "Island Bowl" by Scott Strain talks about last Fridays 59th annual football game at Encinal high school. The article didnt really touch on "so what?" But does mention of the "who cares?" The article talks mainly on the game and its biggest plays. Simply all facts and the reader may find himself or herself saying "so what?" But he also does mention how its the biggest game in alameda, 59th annual, and especially how encinal has been winning the past 7 years or games. So it briefly explains on the "who cares?" It makes a huge difference because is makes it sound more intresting especially when its a sport.

2. In my essay about Rosa Parks I do touch bases on "who cares?" but not so much on "so what?" I explain how she started a whole new thing for everyone. How her rebellious acts made a huge difference in the world and for freedom. I could talk more about how she got there and the struggles and have the audience more intrested.

10:25 AM  
Blogger c.logan92 said...

Christian Logan
Professo Sabir
English 1a 11 - 1150
6 October 2013
They say/ I say ch. 7

1.I responded to the article “Oakland Tribune editorial: California voters right to want do-over on high-speed rail” an Oakland Tribune editorial © 2013 Bay Area News Group. This article discusses how recent polls indicate that voters throughout the state want to have a re-vote on measures regarding the proposed high-speed rail system that is to be constructed. This is because since the vote, the initial costs of the project have been doubled and not all of the routes and stops have been included in the final proposals. The editor does answer the questions of “So what? Who cares?”. The editor warns us that everyone in the state should care because it affects everyone. This project will be built from the taxes paid by the citizens of California.

2.My point here—that Rosa Parks’ work has been often overlooked should interest those who really care about the importance of the civil rights movement and the people who truly made it function. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of social equality for all people. Without the diligent work of these heroes no one in this country would have the privilege to enjoy the simple liberties we do today.

10:36 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Zubair Mohmand
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10-10:50
07 October 2013
They Say Exercises 1&2

1. Reading the SF Gate i came across an article titled "Absorbed device users oblivious to danger" In respond to the they say i say prompt it answers both "so what" and "who cares" The article obviously explains the incident that happened on MUNI Sept. 23 but "who cares?" the articles direction changes and the author includes a quote from District Attorney George Gascón saying"These people are in very close proximity with him(Nikhom Thephakaysone), and nobody sees this. They're just so engrossed, texting and reading and whatnot. They're completely oblivious of their surroundings." with this the author explains the quote into more detail, stating a general group of people. in this case phone users using public transportation. As the article starts winding down it answers "so what" it states the concerns of Muni riders and what matters.

2.my point here that mrs. rosa parks should interest those who doubt her importance during the civil rights movement, and to look at her more than just a seamstress. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about a larger issue of importance in regards to the right we hold because of this remarkable woman

11:15 AM  
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Tiffany Gregory
Professor Sabir
English 1A, 11-11:50
8 October 2013
They say Ch.7

1) In response to Ivon Pena I agree with her stating that there will be better information for those people who are deaf and blind because this website. By them having a website such as this one, they are now more involved in activities in their everyday lives that may involve the internet. “Currently, making information on the Web accessible is voluntary. While I don't think this will change, it might, particularly if the Americans with Disabilities Act become applicable to Web sites.” This statement alone suggests that this website will be something that will change or maybe not change the way some disabled people communicate with the web but they will definitely be affected by it in some way.
I personally think this may be a great idea and invention because there are some blind people who would love to use the internet but it seems basically impossible. This would alone bring hope while bringing new technology to the table.


2) No matter the situation when you clarify the “so what?” and “who cares?” questions you ultimately help the audience understand what it is your trying to explain to them. Reading is always more enjoyable when the reader is able to grasp the concept and also take something from the selection that may be able to be used in their everyday lives. Understating the cause and effect of situations helps people understand the information completely.

1:28 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Rebeca Gonzalez
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10-10:50
They Say Ch.7 Ex.1 and 2

1. In the New York Times article “Rich People Just Care Less”, Daniel Goleman clearly answers the “so what?” and “who cares?” questions. He starts of by describing the behavior that usually most rich people have. He answers the "so what” question by stating how these behaviors that rich people have not only affect themselves as individuals but they also affect others such as people with less money. Daniel then explains several cases of how rich people belittle and outsmart poor people, and that answers the “who cares” question. If the author would not have answered the “so what?” or “who cares?” questions then the article would be confusing and we wouldn’t be able to understand what exactly his point was nor on which side he stands. I could borrow his technique by explaining well a point and stating exactly towards whom it affects. I wouldn’t recommend anything to Daniel because he did a great way of explaining his position in this article and stating towards whom he is targeting.

2. In my Rosa Parks essay, I don’t think I answered the questions “so what?” and “who cares?” as much as I should have.
My point here is that people should get inspired by Rosa Parks as a righteous rebel and believe in making a difference regardless of the consequences you’ll have. When you feel passionate about something and everything in your life pushes you to try to change the way you live then you should never give up and instead find reasons to want to fight for it more.




9:15 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Rebeca Gonzalez
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10-10:50

Responses :
In response to Milin Khunkhun, I agree that Jeremy Seifert does start by appealing the audience and he answers the “so what” and “who cares” questions by letting the audience know who the article is directed towards.
In response to Ivon Pena, John Lescher thoroughly answers the “so what” and “who cares” questions by explaining why they should make websites for the blind, and he doesn’t only give his opinion, he gives facts about loosing their eye vision and how it affects them.

9:28 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Hoi Chak
Professor Sabir
English 1A 8-8:50
7 Oct 2013

1) In the article, "U.S. Issues Warning on Salmonella Believed to Be Linked to A Poultry Farm" the author addresses the 'what' by telling us what the issue is. The government issued a health alert, informing the public that 278 people has been reported ill after eating Foster Farms poultry. The author addresses 'who cares' when mentioning the Food Safety Inspection Service and Dr.David P. Goldman. It makes a difference because it helps us better understand what the article is talking about. Without 'what' we wouldn't know the purpose of the article and without 'who' we wouldn't trust the article because there's no evidence backing the story up.

2) My point here is that Rosa Parks exhibited characteristics of a rebel when confronted with diffuculty challenges such as refusing to give up her seat on the bus, this should interest those who exhibit the same characteristics. Beyond this limited audience, however, my point should speak to anyone who cares about the larger issue of social inequality.

10:54 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Rebeca Gonzalez
Professor Sabir
English 1A 10-10:50
They Say Ch.7 Ex.1 and 2

1. In the New York Times article “Rich People Just Care Less”, Daniel Goleman clearly answers the “so what?” and “who cares?” questions. He starts of by describing the behavior that usually most rich people have. He answers the "so what” question by stating how these behaviors that rich people have not only affect themselves as individuals but they also affect others such as people with less money. Daniel then explains several cases of how rich people belittle and outsmart poor people, and that answers the “who cares” question. If the author would not have answered the “so what?” or “who cares?” questions then the article would be confusing and we wouldn’t be able to understand what exactly his point was nor on which side he stands. I could borrow his technique by explaining well a point and stating exactly towards whom it affects. I wouldn’t recommend anything to Daniel because he did a great way of explaining his position in this article and stating towards whom he is targeting.

2. In my Rosa Parks essay, I don’t think I answered the questions “so what?” and “who cares?” as much as I should have.
My point here is that people should get inspired by Rosa Parks as a righteous rebel and believe in making a difference regardless of the consequences you’ll have. When you feel passionate about something and everything in your life pushes you to try to change the way you live then you should never give up and instead find reasons to want to fight for it more.




Responses :
In response to Milin Khunkhun, I agree that Jeremy Seifert does start by appealing the audience and he answers the “so what” and “who cares” questions by letting the audience know who the article is directed towards.
In response to Ivon Pena, John Lescher thoroughly answers the “so what” and “who cares” questions by explaining why they should make websites for the blind, and he doesn’t only give his opinion, he gives facts about loosing their eye vision and how it affects them.

11:01 PM  
Blogger Professor Wanda's Posse said...

Great discourse here. Lively, thoughtful and informative posts and comments.

7:11 PM  

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